Joui Past Timeline (CONTAINS 100% MANGA SPOILERS)

khorale:

Last night I have scavenged up all the Joui Past flashbacks and attempt to sort them into chronological order. It sort of worked out, if you ignore some of the parts that switches back into the present.

I can’t put everything up here. I have about 140+ pages in my file and I spend over an hour reading through the whole scene. So I’m only going to insert certain pages.

Well, here goes…

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In the beginning, there was the leader of the Naraku who went missing. His name was Utsuro, but we’ve come to know him as Yoshida Shouyo.

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Shouyo encounters Gintoki on a battlefield, where Gin steals from corpses to survive, getting the nickname “Corpse-eating demon.”

We don’t know Gintoki’s past any earlier than this, but he is most likely an orphan.

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Gintoki and Shouyo went traveling to places, finally settling to teach at a school somewhere, and we reach the point where Takasugi and Katsura meets GIntoki.

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Takasugi originally came to challenge the dojo as dojo-yaburi (I think it’s something to do with defeating a dojo and taking its sign or something??) nevermind it’s a temple school. So though he lost again and again to Gintoki, he kept coming back until he finally beats him.

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By that point is when I inserted the flashback from the Benizakura arc. I think at this stage Takasugi came so much he’s practically a student anyway. Also something to note about was that Takasugi was disowned because he kept going to Shouyo’s school and beat up the bunch of assholes guys who were spreading false rumors about Shouyo teaching kids to overthrow the government.

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Now because of these rumors, people are coming to tear the school down. Obviously these three aren’t going to let that happen. Then Shouyou came to the rescue, so the matter was resolved.

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…Or was it? Eventually the Tendoshuu came and took Shouyou away. Gintoki makes a promise to protect his friends. We never saw any other Shouyou’s students in the manga, so there’s a high chance that they had all been killed aside from Katsura and Takasugi.

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There’s another timeskip… the Joui trio are teenagers/young adults, and are ready to join the war effort to get their sensei back.

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I figured that it’s during this time that Shouyou began to teach Mukuro (Nobume) in prison. For one, Nobume is a a teenager, around Sougo’s age during the official storyline. She’s way younger than Gintoki and the others, so this probably happened after the Joui trio grew up.

Also, Shouyou said something interesting. He said that “I had been thinking how with these hands that only took things away, I might be able to give something.” That hinted that Shouyou either knew or remembered his time as Utsuro (even though the present Utsuro doesn’t remember being Shouyo).

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Alright, so then the Joui trio meet Sakamoto. Although Sakamoto also fought in the war, he mainly supplied them with weapon and money to fund the war.

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And a fifth guy, who despite having his name as a joke, was actually real. He had a weird habit of helping people with Pocari, and had a very forgettable presence (lol).

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And then this totally came in, because they elaborated in the Reunion arc (see below).

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… And happy that Pokari was being sold here.”

“WHERE THE HELL DID THE POKARI COME FROOOOOOOM?!”

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Kurokono faked his death by being inside an exploding temple during a game of kick the can.

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This is where the second movie comes in, because Kurokono is not in the movie, and Sakamoto is still here. So it’s kind of the only place it can be inserted into.

Sakamoto’s samurai life ended when in one of the battles, Batou of a mercenary group injured his swords arm so badly he can’t use a sword anymore.

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Sometimes after that, Sakamoto also left the war because of his crippled state. He was adrift at sea and got picket up by the Chidori pirates, where he met Mutsu.

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This is the only time Gin met Oboro, other than during the Ikkoku Keisei arc. And Gintoki’s alone too, so that could mean Katsura and Takasugi are already captured. And Gin’s effort to save them only made things worse…

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…Gin was too badly outnumbered, and with his friends and sensei as hostages, he had to make a decision.

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This is where Takasugi lost his eyes, contrary to what we thought to the “Shiroyasha Koutan” we saw in the anime

After the Tendoshuu left with the body of Shouyo, the Joui 3 disbanded with nothing to protect, their reason to stay in the war is now gone. Takasugi kept his Kiheitai, Katsura regrouped with the rest of the joui to become terrorists, and Gin disappeared off to wander Edo.

The war is over.

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But on the Tendoshuu/Naraku end, Their supposed traitor’s corpse was not a corpse. Because of the Altana, Utsuro did not die. Instead, he was reborn with no memory as Shouyo, only his past as the leader of Naraku. We knew this because he still remembered his first meeting with Oboro, which occurred before his time as Shouyo.

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 So meanwhile Gin was wondering Edo, and saved a girl he barely knew from being sold out by her own father

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And instead of beheading him, the previous head of the Ikeda believed he was a good man, and set him free. Take note of Gin’s clothes…

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…Because it looks the same as the one he wore in the graveyard when he met Otose. He’s all bloodied up because they beat him up in jail.

And then Gin-chan formed the Yorozuya made up of black people, proceed to dump them in a river out of jealousy, and then the official storyline starts.