The Discourse on Hiiro

I and many others understand the reason as to why Hiiro’s character and her arc may seem different and hard to understand at first.

A lack of proper female antagonists + a lack of proper writing for female characters in general × constant framing of certain traits associated with females as bad ^ MISOGYNY = mindset that looks down on female characters.

However, that is no justification for the stance people have towards Hiiro. There never will be a justification for such behaviour. That is because:

1. It is misogynistic so the field for discussion is already unfair.

2. The stance is hypocritical and every argument made can be dismantled easily.

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Hiiro is stuck in the age of a kid/pre-teen forever.

Hiiro spent more time with Father than Yato did.

Hiiro is a shinki- thus she will always be controlled by those that give her a name.

Father gave her a name first.

Father needs a weapon. Hiiro is a weapon. Hiiro is his weapon. Father carried Hiiro around for a long time. Father carries around a child he knew for a very long time and treats her as a weapon.

Father has her become a Nora for many gods.

Noras are looked down on society.

Father gives her a home. 

Father lets Hiiro and Yato call him Father ; this indicates he wants the two to look at him as a parental figure.

Hiiro sees herself as Fujisaki’s child.

Yato sees himself as Fujisaki’s child.

BOTH were abused by Fujisaki.

A main theme in Noragami is Child Abuse.

Yato had Sakura to teach him to value life. Yato had intervention 

Hiiro did not. She had Fujisaki. She always had Fujisaki.

Yato has the ability to grow up. Thus he can make better judgements as he can look at his younger self and see the mistakes he made.

Hiiro does not. This does not mean she can’t reflect on her actions and grow. SHE TOTALLY CAN. 

The problem is that not being able to grow up makes it hard. Her existence is in a constant state of being a kid/preteen. She can’t look back and see if things are wrong so easily. Not when Fujisaki is is treating her the exact same way as he always had. Hiiro is unfortunately not in a position where she can self- reflect and see whats wrong on her own. Someone needs to show her it is. Just like how Sakura showed Yato. 

And now she does. 

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No one is obligated to like Hiiro as a character. Not liking does not make you misogynistic in the slightest. 

But that does not mean you can put up a double standard to justify your negative feelings towards Hiiro.

There is a reason Adachitoka had Hiiro be a girl and have her come from the same place as Yato yet stay there longer than he did.

There is a reason they framed the looking down on Noras as wrong.

There is a reason they made Heaven’s current status quo have flaws that let them scorn Hiiro. 

And there is a reason they want us to think that the status quo must change.

So to all of you that use such misogynistic reasons (slut-shaming) or victim blaming (Good Victim vs. Bad Victim) to scorn Nora – You are the people Adachitoka are condemning, you are the people they would never like as you are now and you are the people they writing to warn people to never become.

Youre the antagonists of Noragami. 

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So reflect. See just why you think that you hate her. And see if its justified. Re read the series, read metas, find out why people love her. Listen. You may be able to appreciate the story more bc of it.

This doesnt mean you have to love her. Or even like her. But to understand her.

I’m really pissed that Kaguha is dead

After being an antagonist for an arc did he really die, just like that? And is his presence so nominal that his only purpose was to be sacrificed? And for his death to not have any personal meaning other than the fact his died for Bishamon.

How come Kazuma, who had the same goals and did the same thing that Kaguha wanted to do gets to have so much focus yet Kaguha just… dies. SUGUHA had more focus on her before she died. So what makes Kuguha different? Why couldn’t he have a redemption arc?

I think we know why.

I respect Adochitika for the topics they wrote into their series but they’re still human and they can make mistakes.

But that doesn’t excuse the fact that the only dark skinned character in the series was forced to die for a light skinned blonde without having any focus to him. Without so much as a bit of hope written to show how he could have amended things with the other Shinki and Bisha.

And if people think I shouldn’t take this to seriously then please do your research and see how such implications can build upon each other to create a very unpleasant image.

If we get more scenes on him (or if he is alive and im so hoping he is despite it all) and more dark skinned characters with good writing then this can be amended.

Really interested to see where all the emphasis on eyes are going to go with White Diamond.

– Her being the ‘watcher’

– The muriel having her eyes look forward

– The sneak peak

– White Pearl losing an eye

– White’s eyes being the first thing we see in her scene

– WD being Garnet’s parallel.

BNHA fans are on a different level of amazing. First naming a piece of the moon Bakugou and now doing the same for a GALAXY after All Might. I can only imagine Horikoshi’s reaction. Keep On being positively awesome BNHA fandom

Voltron and She-ra with their reboots

The Dragon Prince coming to existence

Star Vs the Forces of Evil trailer being released

Steven Universe and just everything about it

Young Justice and The Clone Wars being revived.

Man… it’s been a pretty good time for cartoons lately

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I just found out Gintoki (Gintama), Marlo (Snk), and Karasuma (Assassination Classroom) have the same Seiyuu. Im laughing bc these 3 characters interacting would be the funniest thing ever, especially since AssClass and Gintama are so into references. Poor Marlo would be so confused.

Hisoka, Waver, Arima, Jellal, Kid (OP), and Nobunobu (Gintama) have the same Seiyuu. These guys would have such a weird crossover. Hisoka would probably try to pick a fight Arima, Jellal, and Kid. Waver and Nobu would be in the sidelines wondering how they get themselves in such crazy situations.

Eren, Todoroki, Yukine, Meliodas, Ayato, Sonic (OPM), Judeau (Berserk), and Finnian (Black Butler). Yuki Kaji sure loves voicing characters that go ham when they get pissed. Judeau would literally just be at the back covering Yukine’s ears as everyone screams their heads off. Finnian, Todoroki and Ayato would quickly join the two and would try to stay the heck away from the demon, ninja assassin, and titan so they don’t get caught up in the crossfire.

Dagger (Black Butler),Ryou (Shokogeki), Rin (Blue Exorcist), Karma and Bakugou. A Karma and Bakugou team up would bring utter ruin to whatever poor fool got in their way. Karma and Dagger would exchange tipp about handling knives and finding easier ways to take down opponents while teasing Bakugou at every chance. Rin would be in awe over Ryou’s cooking and Ryou (though he would never admit it) would be impressed with Rin’s- he would so challenge Rin to a match when his bandanna comes off). 

Thank you Ishida for this story. It changed my life for the better. I learned so much and met new people I wouldnt have otherwise.

Your work inspired me to write by showing me tropes other writers would mess up at its best. Im now determined to put them in my works.

Thank you for this wonderful story. Ill forever be grateful. I hope you get a good rest. 😄

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To the amazing meta writers, fan artists and fanfic writers in the Tokyo Ghoul fandom, thank you for everything you gave to the fandom. You guys brought a smile to my face and deepened my understanding of the series. Whether it’s Ishida’s next work or completely other ones, I hope I can see your works again. I wish you all happiness in life and fandom experience.